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Brooklyn

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I just received my Apollo 50 folder with the currency note and engraved card. I am distressed by the poor packaging. They sent the folder in an oversized mailer which almost guaranteed that the item would be subject to shipping stresses. Needless to say there is a small fold in the piece.

Normally i would return the item asking for a replacement. I contacted the mint telephone number to confirm that replacements were available. After several attempts to clarify what would happen I concluded that they would issue a refund. I want the piece not my money back.

I have decided to keep the piece recognizing that it’s future value has been diminished. We are told or been led to believe that inventory is available for replacements. So much for trying to get a straight answer from their telephone people.

Know for the pressing issue. How do we list it..Is this a souvenir card. It was issued for a specific event, available to the general public. Intaglio printed by the BEP. Have we decided how to handle this?


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Sorry to hear.

I bought an example and consider it a currency set with matching numbered souvenir card. The helmet is embossed but nothing, besides the $50 note, is engraved.

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The BEP was the worst (for me) and their deliveries. Cant wait to see how the "new" partnership works? If your delivery is an indication? It doesn't sound good. 
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Steve: please take another look at the insert card.  It is nicely engraved with an outstanding "feel of steel" on the spacesuit plus the embossed helmet.

I particularly liked the matching numbers between the card and the last 4 digits of the note.

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How do we list it..Is this a souvenir card. It was issued for a specific event, available to the general public. Intaglio printed by the BEP. Have we decided how to handle this?


Sorry to hear about the shipping mishap, Art. I wonder if the Mint is doing the shipping for the BEP as well as their order processing. If so, they probably are used to shipping coins and have yet to understand the nuances of cards and currency.

Regarding the insert card, the SCCS cataloging committee has been discussing this. The $50 "moon card" is a legit intaglio BEP product, but it poses the same issues as the engravings in the Bison, Lewis & Clark, Marshall, and Franklin coin/currency sets, namely:

· These cards don't include a title pertaining to the event they commemorate.
· Some are identical to cut-down souvenir cards
· They were not sold individually.

However, the SCCS has an obligation to identify BEP intaglios. My suggestion would be to assign a catalog number to the complete set. Since these are essentially a new type of product, they should get a new numbering prefix -- perhaps "BC" for Bureau Coin/Currency set. There aren't that many to catalog yet, but it's likely there will be more of these collaborations.

I'd be interested to hear any feedback about this. I think we will be discussing this further at the Chicago ANA show. And I'm hoping to get our usual sit-down with the BEP reps -- lots of questions regarding the Apollo 11 cards to be answered.
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Looks like a intaglio souvenir card and should be included in SCCS catalog. Just my two cents.

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We are leaning towards assigning catalog numbers to the entire set rather than the individual card for the reasons I listed above. If the card was sold on its own, it would definitely get a "B" catalog number.

As I anticipated, the Mint/BEP are already set to release yet another couple coin/card sets:
https://catalog.usmint.gov/apollo-11-50th-anniversary-2019-proof-silver-dollar-and-kennedy-apollo-11-intaglio-print-19XA2.html?cgid=null&q=apollo&navid=search#q=apollo&start=1
One will be a silver coin, the other gold, and both will come with the same card.
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Interestingly, we discovered at the ANA Chicago show that the BEP's special limited edition show cards used the same design as the card included in the coin set above. The only difference is the gold foil embossing added in the center. The ink used for the Kennedy portrait may also have been more of a sepia tone. Only 50 of these were printed; opportunities to buy them for $50 each were raffled off 10 per day, only at the show.

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