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GregAlex
A dealer I correspond with shared this picture with me. He hasn't put it on the market and isn't sure if he will. It's a huge broadside by the Excelsior Bank Note Company. This was all done by paste-up, so it is likely unique. Definitely promotional, though probably not something appropriate for the test note catalog. But ... WOW!

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CurrencyDen1
What a beautiful piece!  I have seen several vignettes and some stock & bonds of Excelsior, but never a test/promotional note.  With such a short life span, I believe the chances of an actual advertising note are slim.  I did NOT know it was located in Washington D.C.
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GregAlex
They had offices in DC and New York. Here's a small paste-up of their imprint.

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CurrencyDen1
Here's the latest find by searching auction houses across the pond - a newly found firm issuing an advertising note.
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Sorry for the condition of the note.  It is the only known example, mounted on card with double-sided cellophane tape.  The glue seeped through the note.
It IS about 200 years old!

Joseph Lockett & Sons Co.

From the 1800s, a printer of banker notes, checks, bills, labels, and invoices.  The firm was well known as engravers and for manufacturing copper roller machines.  The firm was dissolved in 1827, but re-emerged as Joseph Lockett Sons & Leake.

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GregAlex
Oh ouch! I think if I owned that I'd serious consider professional restoration. Adhesive removal is easier to clean up than some other other issues, unless the stains are deeply set in. Otherwise, a beautiful note! Good example of moire patterns.
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Goldcert45
Flea market pick ups are this worth keeping and does pmg grade stuff like this
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CurrencyDen1
I haven't even seen a check graded by PMG.  With the name Paper Money Guaranty, I have my doubts they do/will.  They do test notes - the world record test note price in August was graded by PMG ($42.000).  Certainly all collectable!  By definition, all are ephemera.  Love the vignettes!
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Goldcert45
Thanks brought it for the design
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GregAlex
I've seen TPGs grade almost anything. They are always trying to grow their market so they would be happy to take your money and put your item in a slab. However, it won't increase the collector demand for any of this type of material. Ephemera and check collectors have little interest in graded items and you wouldn't be likely to recoup the cost of grading when it comes time to sell.

The two checks are fairly common, showing up regularly on eBay. The rest appear to be printer's proofs. There is a niche market for banknote production material so you might find some interest among stock and bond collectors. The bond back for Columbus and Hocking Valley Rwy is not listed in the Cox database -- https://www.coxrail.com/database/private.asp

Thanks for posting these -- interesting stuff!
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CurrencyDen1
I found a Northern Bank Note Company salesman's booklet yesterday.  The firm is listed in the check collector's list of check producers.  Looks like the check collecting society is disbanded...  This is the first listing for the test note catalogs.  The booklet had sample checks and banknotes in it, but no bank notes listed or shown...  Anyone seen these?
The booklet was probably produced around 1910 to 1920 based on the check samples.
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GregAlex
Actually, that's North Pacific BNC. That isn't a company I've ever heard of and I live in the Northwest. The promotional note says engraving but I suspect they mostly did lithography.
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CurrencyDen1

The firm was established in 1906.  The firm produced maps, books, checks, drafts, bills of exchange, certificates of deposit, and promissory notes.  It remained in business into the 1970s.
117 S. 8th St.
Tacoma WA

Most of the items I found were for the Pacific NW & Alaska

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CurrencyDen1
Here's a Union Bank Note Company sales sheet.  To date, only two items have been attributed to this firm.  This one has been observed in green or dark red inks.
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The other one I have not seen, only described -state seals of Missouri and Kansas; Midwestern buildings, factories, and farms; and a bull and bison, dozens of vignettes.  Here is the bull vignette.
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GregAlex
Union BNC is familiar to me for some reason. But I'm out of town for the week, so I can't check my collection. I wonder if there was an earlier incarnation of this company name.
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CurrencyDen1
Here's my bio on the firm.

Union Bank Note Company

Steel print lithography printer, formed in 1887.  The firm is known to have printed banknotes for the Commercial Bank of Canada, Bullion Bank of the District of Columbia, obsolete scrip for the city of Newark, N.J., depression script,  as well as checks and stock certificates.

137 SW 18th Street

Kansas City, MO.

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CurrencyDen1
GregAlex wrote:
I haven't heard of Crosfield before. I wonder what a "3 pocket document reader and sorter" might be -- perhaps for bank check processing?

In the 1980's Del La Rue also made a bid to enter the U.S. bank note printing market. They tried under their own name and also used the name Federated Bank Note Co. I don't think they had much success. Are you aware of any test notes or promotional material by Federated?


OK, Greg - I have some news for you.  I have located a Federated Banknote sample stock certificate AND a set of De La Rue sample stocks!
I wish the images had better resolution.  It is included in a promotional booklet from Federated in 1966.
FBC-101-1966.jpg 
Here's a "how to" sample from De La Rue.  These sell for $90/each.  Circa 1990, available in Blue, Colbalt, AquaMarine, Gold, Lavender, Orange, Brick, Rose, Brown, and Green.
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I have done some soul searching & came to the conclusion there are compelling reasons to include stock certificates in the catalogs - eBook &  book form.  Of prime importance, yet another fiscal document, so why not?

I am left with one conundrum.  The upcoming book on test and promotional notes of North America will certainly include Federated.  Even though it is a foreign owned firm (TDLR), it had offices in New York and Philadelphia and only had business in the states.  Thomas De La Rue - what to do here?  The stock certificates were for US consumption only.  1) Include ALL materials 2) Include only stock certificates & those test/promotional items for US only use 3) Not include TDLR at all.  I am inclined to not include any TDLR at this point.
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LynchburgKid
Greg,


Archives International Auctions - Auction 56 - Thursday, November 21st, 2019 -

Opening bid $1,000.00

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GregAlex
CurrencyDen1 wrote:


OK, Greg - I have some news for you.  I have located a Federated Banknote sample stock certificate AND a set of De La Rue sample stocks!
I wish the images had better resolution.  It is included in a promotional booklet from Federated in 1966.
FBC-101-1966.jpg 
Here's a "how to" sample from De La Rue.  These sell for $90/each.  Circa 1990, available in Blue, Colbalt, AquaMarine, Gold, Lavender, Orange, Brick, Rose, Brown, and Green.
tdlr1990-Blue, Colbalt, AquaMarine, Gold, Lavender, Orange, Brick, Ros.jpg 
I have done some soul searching & came to the conclusion there are compelling reasons to include stock certificates in the catalogs - eBook &  book form.  Of prime importance, yet another fiscal document, so why not?

I am left with one conundrum.  The upcoming book on test and promotional notes of North America will certainly include Federated.  Even though it is a foreign owned firm (TDLR), it had offices in New York and Philadelphia and only had business in the states.  Thomas De La Rue - what to do here?  The stock certificates were for US consumption only.  1) Include ALL materials 2) Include only stock certificates & those test/promotional items for US only use 3) Not include TDLR at all.  I am inclined to not include any TDLR at this point.


Both of those are interesting items! Have not seen them before. I'd be curious to hear your rationale for adding promotional stocks/bonds to the catalog. I have no preference either way, although I do like them personally. You are welcome to quarry any images from this thread that you might want to use. You'll need to define the difference between promotional specimens and standard specimens.

My take on De La Rue in the North American catalog would be to only include items used in the U.S. or leave them out. And (unpopular opinion follows) that would go for Bradbury-Wilkinson -- despite being owned by ABNC for a time, they were always a European entity and their imprint never appeared in North America that I'm aware of.


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GregAlex
LynchburgKid wrote:
Greg,


Archives International Auctions - Auction 56 - Thursday, November 21st, 2019 -

Opening bid $1,000.00

Excelsior paste-up broadside.jpg


Well, well! And it's a featured item, too. I'll be watching to see what kind of bidding it generates. I'm sure it's a unique piece.

I see there's a good bit of banknote promotional material in this auction. Roland, is there anything new among the lots?
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CurrencyDen1
There are some great advertising notes / test notes!  The only new one is a color variation of the Bradbury-Wilkinson Anti-Photographic series.  These also serve as color samples and are numbered by their combination of colors.  This one is Comb 20, purple/light blue on grey paper.  The highest combination number I have observed is 33.  Of these, I have recorded only 14.  Reverse is blank.
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CurrencyDen1
I just received two stock certificate salesman sample books in the mail yesterday - C. F. Hoeckel Blank, Book, and Litho Company  (90 samples) and Goes Lithographing Company (21 samples).  They are LARGE! 
The Hoeckel book is 9.5" x 17". They produced books, stocks, & checks.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The Goes book is 11.5" x 17.5".     

I will scan those that fit my scanner & photo the others later this weekend.                                            
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DonEinNY
Here are my contributions to the thread.  The first is a sales sheet from the Union Bank Note Company showing George Washington.  It is lithographed, 6" W × 9½" H, on heavyweight paper.

I believe this was cut from a trade publication, as the left edge is uneven.


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DonEinNY
This is a proof from E.A. Wright Bank Note Company of Philadelphia.  It is intaglio printed, 9" W × 6" H, on lightweight paper.  It is listed as EAW-101 in the test note catalog.  I am posting it here to show the background detail.

I wonder if this was a submission to the American Express Company for its traveler's checks.

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DonEinNY

This is an ornate sales ad from the Mendel Lithographing Company.  It is lithographed, 5¾" W × 9" H, on heavyweight paper.  Unfortunately, it shows "Tenney & Reese" in reverse, which is offset from another printing.  It is not a watermark.  The second photo shows the detail of the Mendel's Protective Paper background.

I believe this, too, was cut from a trade publication, as the left edge is uneven.


Mendel Lithographing Co 01.jpg 

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DonEinNY
Another page from a color chart book of the American Bank Note Company.  It is intaglio printed, 7" W × 8½" H, on medium-weight paper.


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