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TookyBandit
Ty!
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notehunter494
Hello Tooky and All.  I have a couple of front plate 169 notes and a final note that just does not fit into a category.  Maybe someone can help me with this last note shown.  Thanks IMG_5440.jpg  IMG_5442.jpg  IMG_5444.jpg 
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notehunter494
Oops. Back for that last note.  Thanks IMG_5445.jpg 
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larry510
I predict that it's going to end up being CU or bust on these BD block 169's.
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EarlySmallSizeFanatic
The last note looks normal from what I can see. 

Series 1934 plain used micro face and back plates. Some 1934 plains have larger macro backs, and are mules. 

I did a thread on these a couple years ago, and there is similar info on the boards.

http://www.papermoneyforum.com/post/educational-thread-10-1934-frn-mules-and-more-8285687?highlight=1934+mule&pid=1304237064
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gnat
It looks like a few examples of this late finished plate 169 have been found on the B-D block, and a handful in CU (which came from a single source). To a certain extent, it does appear that for the B-D block, collectors may want to try to pry a CU example away from the couple collectors that now have an example (or two).

The B-C block and the B-* block also seem to be genuinely rare (so far).

The availability of B-D block examples may mean that these will not command huge premiums (as collectors scramble to now complete their series and variety sets), it may also mean that more collectors will view this variety as one that they have a good shot of adding to their collections. Even so, the 169 lfp represents only a very tiny fraction of 1934A $10 NY production.

To me, it is very cool that such previously unknown, and significant varieties, are still being discovered.

EDITED to add: the 1934 Series NY $10 posted above, with Micro (tiny) front plate 164, helps demonstrate that the similarly early fp 169 was originally a 1934 (not 1934A), but was put into production years later and completed as a Macro (large) fp size and a 1934A.
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notehunter494
Excellent!  Thank you for your help with that last note, I will check out the other threads and see what I might find about where the serial number fits in with respect to seal color and plate numbers.  FYI the back plates for the posted fp169 notes are 939 for the top note and 903 for the ratty note.  I have pics if anyone wants to see them.  I just did not want to fill up the board with more than might be necessary.  Have a Great Independence Week and please be careful not to blow your fingers off.   
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EarlySmallSizeFanatic
Here is info on your serial numbers:

1938: B88908001A to B14420000B. Vivid Blue Green Seals

1944: B71164001C to B26784000D. Pale Blue Green Seals

The change from light green (Yellow Green) to Vivid Blue Green seals was completed by early November 1937. 

The change from Vivid Blue Green to Pale Blue Green seals was complete by October or November 1939. 

Coincidentally, FP169 originated in 1938 as a 1934 plain plate (micro), but ended up as a 1934A (macro) plate.
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larry510
Introducing the first ever certified and properly classified and labeled 169's in uncirculated condition! BC block is very tough and especially in gem condition. Click image for larger version - Name: 20181204_125545.jpg, Views: 75, Size: 492.97 KB Click image for larger version - Name: 20181204_125459.jpg, Views: 77, Size: 509.16 KB
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TookyBandit
Boom!!!! Nice pair 👍
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gnat
TookyBandit wrote:
Boom!!!! Nice pair 👍


Really like the high grade BC Block note.
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Jim61
I agree!!!! Boom!!!!
Looking for:
Any small size UNC $1 FRN with serial 16977961.
2009 $1 LX end -61 - CU.
1935A $1 CC HAWAII end -61 raw or PCGS CU or better, PMG ok.
World serial 00000061.
World replacements serials ending -61.
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historyfrk219

Found this in a lot of notes I purchased off of Ebay recently. B-C block with a BP# 911. 
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Do we know the census numbers for each block so far on the FP 169s?

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TookyBandit
Congrats 👏 

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B-C Block is roughly 10x tougher than B-D
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notehunter494
Hello All, here is what I have, all found during the covid days,  the covid collection!    I just threw the five in at the end,  not a covid, I have this for a while.  Tougher than the tens. Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_1838.jpg, Views: 35, Size: 3.18 MB Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_1839.jpg, Views: 34, Size: 3.14 MB Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_1840.jpg, Views: 34, Size: 3.06 MB Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_1841.jpg, Views: 34, Size: 3.25 MB Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_1842.jpg, Views: 34, Size: 3.27 MB Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_1843.jpg, Views: 35, Size: 3.33 MB Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_1844.jpg, Views: 34, Size: 3.53 MB Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_1845.jpg, Views: 34, Size: 3.42 MB
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notehunter494
Forgot this one... Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_1836.jpg, Views: 33, Size: 3.11 MB Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_1837.jpg, Views: 33, Size: 3.14 MB
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Notehunter:-

Impressive set of 169s. More impressive is the $5 narrow face. Nice find on that one!
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historyfrk219
Well @TookyBandit, I'm 2/3 of the way there! Picked this one out of a lot of other 10s. Just need to find the B* now. 
20200918_083917.jpg  BP #998

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TookyBandit
Excellent pick up 👏 
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historyfrk219
Thought this was pretty cool to add with my set, it's a regular 1934 non-mule but the front plate number is 168, and illustrates really well the difference in the two numbers. 
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Nebraska Nationals and Obsoletes, United States Small Size Paper Money

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