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Bravo6
Getting more and more into obsoletes. I have a set of the Whitman books and they seem to indicate that issues from STATE banks will usually not be included in the set as they are considered separate from the Local banks. First noticed this when trying to look up The State of Louisiana $5 issue 1863, “South strikes down the union”. Is this correct to anyones knowledge?
thanx
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purduenut
Because the subject is so huge, most of the people who have tried to do the United States in encyclopedic style ala Haxby and Whitman have, of necessity, had to omit anything that's not an issue of a commercial bank ...no municipal or state issues, no merchant scrip, no transportation company issues, etc. The required library if you want to cover the entire subject is comprised of individual state books, the multi volume encyclopedias from Whitman and the Haxby catalogs, as well as the Southern States book by Hugh Shull that covers state government issues from the southern states (northern state government issues are very uncommon and usually handled in the individual state catalogs).
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JohnDavenport
I think (and others on the board are probably more expert on this than I am) that there's a significant difference between notes issued by state banks vs. by states themselves.  Many states had State Banks, which were mostly private enterprises chartered by the respective states.  Haxby lists them, and I expect Bowers does as well.  States themselves were not allowed to issue notes themselves.  Many (all?) states that left the Union did issue notes themselves, and that's what you've got.  Those issues are not listed in Haxby, but Hugh Shull's book is a great (and inexpensive) reference for those.

On that note, does anyone know if the Whitman/Bowers series is going to continue?
Collector (and SPMC State Expert) of Ohio obsoletes.  SPMC LM #405.  A.k.a. "uzuiwek"
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Bravo6

I think (and others on the board are probably more expert on this than I am) that there's a significant difference between notes issued by state banks vs. by states themselves.  Many states had State Banks, which were mostly private enterprises chartered by the respective states.  Haxby lists them, and I expect Bowers does as well.  States themselves were not allowed to issue notes themselves.  Many (all?) states that left the Union did issue notes themselves, and that's what you've got.  Those issues are not listed in Haxby, but Hugh Shull's book is a great (and inexpensive) reference for those.

On that note, does anyone know if the Whitman/Bowers series is going to continue?

Yep, that seems to be my problem currently. Only copy of Schull’s book i can find is going for $160. Does anyone know where there is a copy of Spmc book on currency and scrip of louisiana for sale? Interested in the “south strikes down the union” issue but can not find a valuation on it......
I have gotten interested in obsoletes in self-defense ( prices) and am finding I need to expand my library.....
thanx

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newenglandnotes
Denly has the Shull book on his website for $35.00.   If you call him ask if he has the Louisiana book as well.   If not, Charles Davis or Kolbe & Fanning would be good places to check first.   
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Bravo6
Thanx, glommed  onto a copy.......from denly, not familiar with the other two sites......
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purduenut
You can also just go to the Heritage Auctions website, enter a few key words, and search their database that contains prices realized on over 107,000 obsoletes that they have sold. There are 228 hits for this note right now
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MEC2
Yeah this note in both of it's issues are pretty common and available...
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purduenut
Awhile back packs of them came to auction.
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Bravo6
Bravo6 wrote:
Thanx, glommed  onto a copy.......from denly, not familiar with the other two sites......

now they emAiled me that they are out of them..
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Bravo6
purduenut wrote:
Awhile back packs of them came to auction.

I just think that is one of the more interesting notes for obvious reasons.....I hear that the engraver credited denied engraving it.....
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purduenut
Yep Blanton Duncan, in a post war newspaper article, denied any involvement with the vignette. That, simply, was a lie. 
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