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DonEinNY

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This thread is intended as a continuation of the discussion started by GregAlex regarding repurposed souvenir cards in the Mystery Souvenir Cards thread.  I thought the topic merited a separate discussion to determine how these types of cards would be categorized in the SCCS numbering system.

At one time, overprinted cards were given an "A" designation after the SCCS number.  The cards I am aware of are:

B-10A  Westpex 1971 with Cupertino Coin Club 1995 Banquet Overprint, canceled on day of banquet - 75 issued.
B-23A  Compex 1973 with Milcopex 1992 Banquet Overprint, show canceled - Unknown number issued.
B-28A  Milcopex 1974 with Milcopex 1974 Banquet Overprint - Unknown number issued.
B-39A  Milcopex 1977 with Milcopex 1977 Banquet Overprint - Unknown number issued.
B-55A  Milcopex 1982 with Milcopex 1982 Banquet Overprint, show canceled for 3 days of show - 122 issued.
B-62A  Philatelic Show 1983 with Philatelic Show 1983 Banquet Overprint, show canceled on day of banquet - 240 issued.
B-76A  Milcopex 1985 with Milcopex 1985 Banquet Overprint, show canceled on day of banquet - 151 issued.
B-90A  Ameripex 1986 with Milcopex 1987 Banquet Overprint, show canceled on day of banquet - Unknown number issued.
SO-111A  Milcopex 1993 with Milcopex 1993 Banquet Overprint, show canceled on day of banquet - 125 issued.
SO-125A  Milcopex 1994 with Milcopex 1994 Banquet Overprint, show canceled on day of banquet - 120 issued.
PS-3A  Philympia 1970 with San Jose Coin Club 1994 Banquet Overprint, canceled on day of banquet - 100 issued.
PS-7A  Exfilbra 1972 with Cupertino Coin Club 1994 Banquet Overprint, canceled on day of banquet - 100 issued.
PS-62A  Memento 1986 Overprinted for Stampex 1986 (already listed by SCCS) - 2000 issued.

Following are scans of the ones I have:

B23A 1992 Banquet.jpg 

B28A 1974 Banquet.jpg 
B39A 1977 Banquet.jpg 
B76A.jpg 
B90A 1987 Banquet.jpg 
SO125A 1994 Banquet.jpg 

Should these cards be continued with the "A" designation or should some other system be developed for categorizing these cards?

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Then there are the cut-down cards repurposed for other shows.  A couple of additional ones are:

SO22 Rep 2002 Front.jpg 
SO22 Rep 2002 Back.jpg 
SO41 Rep 1995 Front.jpg 
SO41 Rep 1995 Back.jpg

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And then there are embossed cards.  The following is B-90 embossed with the BEP Ameripex seal and signed by Robert J. Leuver, Director of the BEP at the time.

B90 Emboss.jpg

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Very timely post, Don. SCCS members will find an article in the next Souvenir Card Journal that addresses this topic, from a cataloging perspective. These have long been a gray area for card collectors, but they will be getting catalog references soon. Here is the newly established standard:

  • B, PS, SO, and UN card varieties that have been "officially" modified (overprinted, embossed, etc.) by the USPS, BEP, UN, or ABNC will receive a suffix of A, B, C, etc. Varieties modified post-production (cut-down, overprinted, etc.) by other organizations will receive a suffix of (a), (b), (c), etc.

So the Milcopex overprints and the cut-down ANA cards will become B-10(a), B-23(a), etc. and SO-22(a), SO-41(b), etc.  There are considerably more varieties that were modified by "external" organizations, but the BEP and USPS did a number of their own modifications. B-90 is a good example; the Bureau added an embossed seal and printed signature of BEP Director Rob Leuver, for the Ameripex '86 awards banquet. The following year, the Bureau took the B-101 Cherry Blossom card and simply added foil seals to create six special edition cards. So these received capital letter suffixes: B-90A, B-101A,B,C, etc.

[B-90] 

[B-90A] 

[B-101] 

[B-101E] 

The same holds true for the very limited edition "Certificate for Collectors" cards that American Bank Note raffled off at a number of coin and stamp shows. These cards lack the printed serial numbers of the regular issue cards, instead they are hand-numbered and have a special embossed seal. So they receive large letter suffixes, also, such as SO-145A.

[SO-145] 

[SO-146A] 

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But here's a new curiosity I came upon recently. This is a modified forerunner card, which is another gray area. Since forerunners are cataloged using a year-based format (F-2004A) how would we number this one? The red overprint is not a cancel, btw.

F2004 op.jpg 
F2004 IPMS overprint.jpg

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Very nice selection DonEinNY.

Greg - I would keep with the same naming architecture.  It would be F-2004A(a).  The description comments can be added as a variety of the F-2004A card.

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DonEinNY

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Thanks for the info, Greg.  The numbering system you describe should work well.

Two other items for the catalog committee to consider.  The first - should the small glossy print card of B-90 Ameripex (no picture - I can't find mine right now) that was bound into the Ameripex catalog be considered a souvenir card?

The next concern is regarding ANA-3.  The 2008 SCCS catalog shows the Bermuda Monetary Authority card, shown below, as being ANA-3, but Ken Barr's site reports this is not ANA-3.  His site states ANA-3 is a vertical format card with the actual note attached.  As he would know better than I, perhaps the Bermuda Monetary Authority card should be listed separately (ANA-3A?).

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I took a look at Ken's site and I see what you mean. I was not aware of a card with an attached note -- I'll have to ask him about this. Might be a variety that needs to be added.
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Mystery solved. Here is a page from an early Souvenir Card Journal that had an article about the Bermuda card. This is a b/w image of it and it does appear to have a genuine note attached, though it's hard to be certain. Apparently only 100 were printed and only 35 were sold -- so this is a rare one. And as I look at the other card, it's pretty clear that it was issued by the Bermuda Monetary Authority -- NOT the ANA.

Now I have to go about finding one of these to scan for the website...

Actual ANA-3.jpg

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Thanks for the research, Greg.  I have never seen that card before.  I guess the Bermuda Monetary Authority card is relegated to being a foreign card, albeit a good one.
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Now that you bring it up -- the BMA is a North American security printing entity. Which actually qualifies it as a semi-official souvenir card, according to the new criteria the SCCS has established! This will definitely be another card for the cataloging committee to discuss. Don, do you have that card and is it engraved?
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It is partially engraved.  The card is slightly larger than 8" H × 10" W on lightweight grayish-amber (amber manila?) card stock that is coated on the front.  All of the aqua blue portions (text, note background, and lathe-work band) are lithographed.  The dark green and black portions of the note are intaglio.  There is no watermark or facsimile watermark in the blank oval portion.

According to correspondence I have, there were 100 canceled with the Bermuda dinghy stamp and 100 canceled with the 1985 Queen Mother stamp.  Since both of these issues are series of stamps, I do not know how many varieties are available.  I have the canceled versions with the 1983 30¢ dinghy stamp (Scott #438) and the 30¢ and 40¢ Queen Mother stamps (Scott #470 & #471).  The cancels are also for July 29, 1985, which pre-dates the ANA convention.  I will e-mail you copies of the correspondence, since it contains names, addresses, and phone numbers that are not mine.

I also remember reading way back that most of these cards sustained some moisture damage.  Many had vertically rippled striations from moisture.  These were more visible from the back.  I don't know if this happened during the printing process or afterwards. 
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I am in the process of compiling images of these cards to add to the website and found another few Milcopex overprints. I hope the guy who designed the first one was properly throttled.

B-62a.jpg  B-239a.jpg  PS-64a.jpg 

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