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Rhino89
I thought I'd share useful info with any of you who sell on eBay. I sell from time to time, and haven't had any major issues on easily over 500 transactions at this point. I recently had a case opened up by a buyer for an "item not received" a month after I shipped it out. In the process of submitting proof that I shipped the item out, I discovered that my buyer's address (4283 Express Lane, Sarasota FL) is actually a third party shipper for international customers. If you read and that and went, "what does that mean?" I'll enlighten you:

There is a service out there called "MyUS" with a facility at the Express Lane address. What they do is allow international customers living abroad to register a US-based address. My customer was one of these buyers, and his address was "4283 Express Lane, Suite ###-###". This facility doesn't have any separate "suites", the "suites" are essentially account numbers for these global customers. When a customer shops online and ships to this Sarasota address, MyUS then gathers up all the customer's mail and packages and ships it abroad to their real address for a much lower fee than what they would pay for all their packages separately. Of course, the problem then comes in when MyUS might lose a package or forget to send it, or take their sweet time packing things up, which is why I probably got hit with the "item not received" claim.

The ruling went in my favor, but I wanted to issue the warning that these services exist. I had no idea, and now I'm on the lookout for these types of addresses to ensure my winning bidders aren't trying to bypass the Global Ship program.
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NessunDorma
I just had one of these for an $8 item. When I saw the address, I just cancelled the transaction and refunded the buyer. Turned out he was actually located in Columbia. Not worth the hassle for a few dollars.
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High Grade Rarities
My advice, don't ship outside the U.S.. It's a problem waiting to happen. If someone uses a middleman in the U.S. to ship outside the U.S., no worries. Ebay will always side with the seller if there is a problem with delivery and you have a tracking#.
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NessunDorma
My advice, don't ship outside the U.S.. It's a problem waiting to happen. If someone uses a middleman in the U.S. to ship outside the U.S., no worries. Ebay will always side with the seller if there is a problem with delivery and you have a tracking#.


Your suggestion makes no sense. What is wrong with shipping to Canada for example, as long as there is a tracking number? Since, according to you, eBay always sides with the seller if there is a tracking number, where is the risk to the seller?
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Shipping outside the U.S. is a headache that can be prevented. If someone outside the U.S. is using a middleman with a U.S. address to forward packages, that's not avoidable. My point, problems can be minimized by simply not shipping outside the U.S.. Check the box in you Ebay selling account to block bidders that don't have a U.S. shipping address. If you don't mind answering constant messages in broken English asking "where's my package", and you don't mind filling out customs forms and navigating the different rules for different countries(many don't allow money in packages), than have at it. Just my opinion, shipping international packages is a pain in the ass and not worth the hassle that goes along with it.
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MaineJoe
 I have to totally agree with HRG. I have been selling there for many years and keep the US, Territories and Canada open. All other foreign shipping is just too much trouble. Using USPS leaves an open hole for tracking once it leaves the US. Aside from that the cost to use say UPS International is not cost effective. But I have had buyers/bidders ask if they bid and win can I send it to an address here in the US and they will have family or friend send it to them outside the country. Last one I had in that manner was someone in Israel. I'm sure there are dealers and sellers that have little problems with international shipping. But the only true way through that hole is to use the eBay international shipping option, which is rather costly for the most part. Anyone here or elsewhere that has purchased from me on eBay has found that I am prompt in shipping, and it's FREE! Last year on eBay alone my "free" shipping cost was just under $8K. And I do the same for most anyone else I deal with outside of eBay also.
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NessunDorma
If you don't mind answering constant messages in broken English asking "where's my package"


So anyone who doesn't live in the USA speaks broken English now? Do people in the UK, Canada, Australia and countless other countries also speak broken English, or is it just you who doesn't understand. This is precisely the kind of xenophobic and hateful remark that has no place in a civilized discussion on a hobby forum. Very sad.
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mfontes

Oh lord here we go again. Name calling and twisting stories. Ugh

I recently shipped to Canada and was forced to ship to one of those companies. The seller requested that I ship to his address but I couldn’t so I shipped the note to the company. Well the note arrived at the shipping company and disappeared. The buyer was able to get a refund from the shipping company but was disappointed with the process. I don’t blame him at all. 



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NessunDorma wrote:


So anyone who doesn't live in the USA speaks broken English now? Do people in the UK, Canada, Australia and countless other countries also speak broken English, or is it just you who doesn't understand. This is precisely the kind of xenophobic and hateful remark that has no place in a civilized discussion on a hobby forum. Very sad.


WTF???? Is this guy for real?
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I was just kindly trying to give some advice based on many years of shipping and tens of thousands of packages. I've experienced every scenario and problem in the book multiple times. My decision to not ship outside the U.S. has ZERO to do with being "xenophobic" and I don't appreciate that label being thrown at me. The problems- unreliable mail systems in many countries, customs forms, different rules about what can be shipped from one country to another, and yes occasional language barriers and trying to communicate with buyers complaining their package didn't show up. You may be surprised at how many countries do not allow money shipped into their country. Sellers have to lie on custom forms and call old coins and currency "historical documents" or something like that in order for the package to pass through customs. All this said, many dealers agree that shipping outside the U.S. is just not worth the trouble, and has NOTHING to do with being "xenophobic".

NessunDorma- "I just had one of these for an $8 item. When I saw the address, I just cancelled the transaction and refunded the buyer. Turned out he was actually located in Columbia. Not worth the hassle for a few dollars."

Does this mean you have a problem with the people of Columbia and they aren't "worth the hassle"?  Is that being "xenophobic"? Of course not, so not sure why you felt the need to hurl that label at me for similar feelings of not being "worth the hassle" to ship outside the U.S.. Your hateful personal insults have no place on this forum, and there have been many warnings issued for this type of behavior not being welcome here.
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notehunter494
Yep. NEVER ship outside USA for all the HGR reasons.
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NessunDorma
I was just kindly trying to give some advice based on many years of shipping and tens of thousands of packages. I've experienced every scenario and problem in the book multiple times. My decision to not ship outside the U.S. has ZERO to do with being "xenophobic" and I don't appreciate that label being thrown at me. The problems- unreliable mail systems in many countries, customs forms, different rules about what can be shipped from one country to another, and yes occasional language barriers and trying to communicate with buyers complaining their package didn't show up. You may be surprised at how many countries do not allow money shipped into their country. Sellers have to lie on custom forms and call old coins and currency "historical documents" or something like that in order for the package to pass through customs. All this said, many dealers agree that shipping outside the U.S. is just not worth the trouble, and has NOTHING to do with being "xenophobic".

NessunDorma- "I just had one of these for an $8 item. When I saw the address, I just cancelled the transaction and refunded the buyer. Turned out he was actually located in Columbia. Not worth the hassle for a few dollars."

Does this mean you have a problem with the people of Columbia and they aren't "worth the hassle"?  Is that being "xenophobic"? Of course not, so not sure why you felt the need to hurl that label at me for similar feelings of not being "worth the hassle" to ship outside the U.S.. Your hateful personal insults have no place on this forum, and there have been many warnings issued for this type of behavior not being welcome here.


Whatever dude, if you don't see how your comments about people outside the USA speaking "broken English" might be considered xenophobic and insulting, then I guess you're not very smart. I frankly don't know why I would ever have expected you to be.
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Numbersman
Something very similar is currently happening to me.Sold a $300 note to a buyer who initially asked me to ship to China.I flatly refused.He then asked me to ship to "his" NY address and they would forward it to him.I only agreed to that because the provided NY address was PayPal verified.Still,today,22 days after it was delivered, the buyer messages me that his doorman sent it back to me and that I should have it or that it would be showing up shortly.Between you and me,I'm still laughing about that one! He never mentioned me sending back to him(which is an obvious red flag).I asked him for a tracking number and why he waited over 3 weeks to contact me....I've not yet heard back.I already spoke to PP and they assured me I have nothing to worry about....but,I've heard that before. His eBay name is rl3_77
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