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ranchogold
I cannot seem to be able to find anything online about telling the difference between a true note and a German WW2 Forgery. Any thoughts?

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Thanks
A.J. in Las Vegas
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Jim61
From what I can see in the Britannia portrait, it looks genuine.

Here is one quick online reference that may help you if you use a good magnifying glass.

http://banknote.ws/COLLECTION/countries/EUR/GBR/GBR0337.htm

scroll down to bottom.

There are others on here that can help better than I can. Hopefully they will chime in.
Looking for:
Any small size UNC $1 FRN with serial 16977961.
2009 $1 LX end -61 - CU.
1935A $1 CC HAWAII end -61 raw or PCGS CU or better, PMG ok.
World serial 00000061.
World replacements serials ending -61.
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lettow
I agree that it is probably a genuine note.  The diagnostic on the N in ENGLAND in the watermark indicates a genuine note and the serial number does not appear on the list of counterfeits on Pam West's site.
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ranchogold
Thanks both of you. Any thoughts on a value?
A.J. in Las Vegas
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MAM0912
From the 9th Edition of English Paper Money, Edited by Pam West, 2017. B243: genuine £20 in VF is listed at £1100. The Bernhard forgery in VF £110.

Here is what's written about the forgeries, I can't figure out the earing on her right ear (to left). The right ear in the image or her actual right ear on the left. Click on image to make it larger.

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Marty

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ranchogold
Thanks for your help everyone. I have decided to send it into PMG and see what they say, based on what has been posted here and what I can see on the note. Thanks again!
A.J. in Las Vegas
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ranchogold
I just got the info back from PMG(it is in the mail on the way to me), and it came back as a genuine note Grade '15 Paper Maker's Notch Rust'. Thanks again to everyone for their help.
A.J. in Las Vegas
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Steve in Tampa
Thanks for the update 👍
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TennisCoach
There seems to be quite a few of these in the HA archives.  I think a lot of counterfeits by Jewish inmates have been graded.  Most of these sell between $100 to $200 in 2019.
Also a number of these notes all have the same notch located on the right side margin.  The genuine ones sell for quite a bit more so it's probably a good idea to get it graded for the sake of authenticity and preservation.
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ranchogold
TennisCoach wrote:
There seems to be quite a few of these in the HA archives.  I think a lot of counterfeits by Jewish inmates have been graded.  Most of these sell between $100 to $200 in 2019.
Also a number of these notes all have the same notch located on the right side margin.  The genuine ones sell for quite a bit more so it's probably a good idea to get it graded for the sake of authenticity and preservation.


I did. It ended up coming back from PMG a 15 with Rust and a Paper Makers Notch. It is in the mail on the way to me now. Thanks though.
A.J. in Las Vegas
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TennisCoach
Yeah, I should have hit the refresh button before posting.  This is what happens when you are off doing other things with the computer on.  The paper makers notch is interesting, I wonder why they felt it necessary to distinguish themselves in that way?  Was it a widespread practice during that time?  It doesn't look very difficult to copy, so I doubt it would deter counterfeiters.    
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ranchogold
TennisCoach wrote:
Yeah, I should have hit the refresh button before posting.  This is what happens when you are off doing other things with the computer on.  The paper makers notch is interesting, I wonder why they felt it necessary to distinguish themselves in that way?  Was it a widespread practice during that time?  It doesn't look very difficult to copy, so I doubt it would deter counterfeiters.    


I don't know about the notch. I do think it is a bit funny that my paper money has rust issues. I guess from iron in the ink.
A.J. in Las Vegas
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lettow
The notch appears on all British white notes. The notch is in a different location on the right side for each denomination. It was to prevent raising a note.
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lettow
TennisCoach wrote:
There seems to be quite a few of these in the HA archives.  I think a lot of counterfeits by Jewish inmates have been graded.  Most of these sell between $100 to $200 in 2019.
Also a number of these notes all have the same notch located on the right side margin.  The genuine ones sell for quite a bit more so it's probably a good idea to get it graded for the sake of authenticity and preservation.


The diagnostics for the Operation Andrew and Operation Bernhard counterfeits are well documented.
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TennisCoach
lettow wrote:
The notch appears on all British white notes. The notch is in a different location on the right side for each denomination. It was to prevent raising a note.


This makes perfect sense, thanks lettow. [thumb]
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